Like millions of people around the world I have enjoyed talk shows since I
was old enough to turn on the television. Since I grew up in the fifties and
sixties my idea of such a format was created by such luminaries as Steve Allen,
Jack Parr and Mike Douglas. Now, must talk shows are little more than
commercials for some star’s latest project. They offer a pre-planned interview
lasting all of six to eight minutes of sound bites. If you see the same guest on
another talk show later on you hear the same stories almost verbatim. I know
this may sound amazing but a few decades ago talk shows involved something lost
on television now, in depth discussion. Yes, the host and the guest would
actually talk to each other often for the whole hour length of the show.
Frequently, several guests would stay on the venerable couch and the discussion
would involve more than two people, incredible. One of the greats among talk
show hosts is without a doubt Dick Cavett. This brainy Nebraska born man was not
an imposing man. He was slight of build but his degree from Yale attests he had
the intellect to more than hold up his end of any conversation. Shout Factory
has been releasing DVD box sets of his seventies show, not as season sets but
instead by themes. There was rock icons followed by comic legends. Now we have a
third gem Hollywood greats.
This set opens with a Cavett considering a question that has often been put
to him, who was your greatest guest star. As he explains he can not answer that
question. He has interviewed so many truly great people that there is no answer.
As he puts it ‘how can you choose between Orson Wells and Alfred Hitchcock, they
are not comparable.’ Each of his guests where unique but all shared one thing in
common, they where at the top of their fields. Back in the golden era of talk
shows some guests where sought after but never would consent to appearing on
television. One such star was the Holy Grail of talk shows, Katherine Hepburn.
The screen legend greatly prized her privacy and her refusal to be interviewed
on television was well known. On October 2, 1973 Miss Hepburn consented to a
tour of the Dick Cavett show’s studio just to see what format the show had. She
was always a strong willed and decisive woman and stated that she would do the
interview but it had to be done there and then. There was no studio audience
present. As Cavett explains the laugher and applause was from the fortunate few
crew members and musicians that happened to be in the area. Not even Barbara
Walters was able to book this most prized interview. The segment includes scenes
of Miss Hepburn walking on set and sitting down. The fact that it is completely
unplanned is evident by the crew members walking in front of the camera. She
notes the table is unsteady and moves another in to its place quipping that she
has been in the business so long she has a (union) card. With her foot propped
up on the table she begins her chat with Cavett. So much was covered that Miss
Hepburn’s appearance was spread over two nights. Miss Hepburn displayed an
amazing ease, not only with the interview but with her own life.
Sometimes the show displayed a synergy when more than one guest appeared at
the same time. This happened on December 16, 1971 when Groucho Marx and Debbie
Reynolds appeared on the show. Groucho was a frequent guest of Cavett’s and felt
very at home on his stage. After doing his usual song and some stand up he sits
down with Cavett and Reynolds. Groucho tells a few bawdy stories while Reynolds
sat their obviously enjoying herself immensely. The two worked so well off each
other. Separately they were fantastic guests but together you got the feeling of
being at a small cocktail party listening to some very funny and interesting
after dinner conversation. Another show that displayed marvelous interactions
took place on January 21, 1972 when the line up was Mel Brooks, Frank Capra,
Robert Altman and Peter Bogdanovich. Any one of them would be a treat to watch
but having them all on the same set at the same time was nothing short of
perfection. Cavett was not afraid to mix and match the talents of guests
especially when more than one would appear at the same time. Sometimes a couple
of the men would hold back and have a smoke, other times the debate would get
rolling pulling everyone into a lively discussion. The set also includes
incredible interviews with such personages as Alfred Hitchcock, Orson Wells,
Kirk Douglas and Marlon Brando. No matter when you tuned into the Dick Cavett
show back then you could be certain that something wonderful was about to
happen.
One thing these box sets brings out is the production values of the show
where not exactly the best around. The network did not pay attention to certain
little matters as they would with something like the Tonight Show. You
frequently can see a boom microphone hanging down over a guest. Extraneous noise
from the streets of Manhattan can be heard jut under the audio track. Some call
this flaws, I see it more as part of the charge of the show. It added to the
dinner party atmosphere of the proceedings. Of course unlike such a party the
host would not be required to stop a few times to hold up a bottle of shampoo
and give a live commercial. This series had charm, something that has been lost
over the years. Cavett was intelligent to be sure but what made him one of the
greatest television interviewers ever was his natural wit and manner. He was
obviously in awe of many of his guests. Although this was his job he could be
just as star struck as the rest of us and this translated to him asking the
questions we might ask if only we had his opportunities. Going to Yale and
having his own talk show did not take the simple Nebraska boy out of Dick Cavett.
He was able to put his guests at ease and this resulted in them letting their
guard down and just relating to Cavett and the audience. How could a six minute
movie plug seen today ever hope to compare to the in depth talks shown on these
discs?
I for one am extremely grateful to Shout Factory for bringing sets like this
to DVD. Now a whole new generation can appreciate just how fantastic a talk show
can be. I can’t wait to share this set with my twenty two year old daughter so
she can come to know that all talk shows are not like Jerry Springer. Like the
other sets in this (hopefully) ongoing series there are all new introductions by
Dick Cavett. He looks back on the episodes with fondness and pride that comes
form knowing you made television history. These are complete episodes, including
the stand up monologue by Cavett. Okay, his humor during these moments is dry
but they set the stage for what is to come. There are also extras that include
some never before seen moments of the guests. These are great and add to the
overall understanding of these great men and women of the film business. Do your
self and your family a favor and get all the members of this series. This was
classic television at its best and it should be remembered and appreciated for
generations to come.
Posted 9/10/06